Tell us a little about yourself. Who or
what inspired you to start writing? I started to write
rudimentary fantasies after I read the Chronicles of Prydain by Lloyd Alexander
(as a child). I really liked those children’s books, and it kind of all began
with the map at the front. I drew my own and imagined silly things that would
happen at each location. My first map was very small—just an island with one city
on it. And my first story was twenty or so pages, and really quite dumb. My
friend at the time liked it though. He’s the only person that read it.
What is the inspiration behind Oculus and
the first novel of the series, Slipstream? My own agnostic/atheist
beliefs. I was sitting around one night reading about Erwin Schrödinger on an
old college buddy’s website. My college buddy is Blas, and to this day, he’s
the smartest man I’ve ever met in real life. He got a PhD in physics in his
early 20’s about the time that most people get their bachelor’s from
university, and he works in Los Alamos, New Mexico. When I say Blas is smart I
want you to think Sheldon Cooper smart, only without any of that awkwardness.
Blas is cool and flies all over the world drinking beer and hob-knobbing with
other scientists at CERN. The math he posts on his website is beyond my
comprehension, but it’s fascinating to know someone who can understand the
stuff that others on his level--Michio Kaku and Stephen Hawking--can just do in
their head. Anyway, Slipstream is about the fundamental fact (observed in
quantum physics) that sub-atomic particles of matter disappear and reappear all
the time. If you watch Breaking Bad, you’ve probably heard Walt call himself
Heisenberg. Well this name derives from the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle
which basically states that on a subatomic level, you cannot know the physical
properties of a particle (such as its position and momentum) at the same time.
Take light for example: it changes from a wave to a particle depending on if
someone is looking at it. Now think about that for a moment: light “knows” when
it is being observed and when you’re back is turned on it, it’s behaving
entirely different than when you are looking at it. Our universe is really weird.
When you think of all matter being built of subatomic particles that behave
like this, then you can understand why Einstein once turned to his partner and
asked: Can you prove to me that the moon is actually up there when no one is
looking for it? And his partner said that he couldn’t. Well this is what
Slipstream is about. I came up with the idea that God isn’t what everyone
thinks he is (blasphemy to some, but this is fiction). Instead, he might be an
engineer who observes our universe from another universe, and because he does
so, it makes our universe real as long as he’s looking at it. And I basically
created three universes. There’s the one Earth is in, there’s the one Avalon is
in (which is a mirror world) and then there is a third one that will be in the
final book called “Eden” (book five). I also went a step further. I had God set
up these huge towers on the “important” worlds of Earth and Avalon. One is
white, and one is black. Inside each, he placed a box that contains a computer
program that runs all of the laws of physics expressed mathematically. As long as they continue to run smoothly, the
universe runs smoothly. So literally, what I’m saying is that in “Oculus” the
reason why everything operates the way it does is because it’s all been defined
by a super engineer billions of years ago. I also tie all of the main
character’s powers to this box. They are defined just like the speed of light
is defined and are unique to him. He’s an archangel and has the power to jump
universes (to go to the other two), because “angels” needed these powers to act
as messengers and observers. Jordan just happens to be the last archangel, and
I never discuss what happened to all the others.
What surprised you the most
about the business side of publishing? Publishing is a business. If your goal is to
get a Big Five publishing contract and are getting rejected by agents, the
reason you’re getting rejected is because the agent in looking at your query
makes a decision that they can’t sell your book. Now let’s examine this
statement. The difference between the Big Five and the small publisher is print
distribution. The reason why the Big Five is in the chain bookstores and your
small pub is not is because THEY OFFER A RETURN POLICY. Let that sink
in. What I’m saying is a publisher HAS to have deep enough pockets to make
certain that if your book doesn’t fly off the shelf, they will buy it back from
the store and eat the cost of the book. Only a billion dollar company could
afford to make this kind of commitment on a mass level, and they are willing to
do so with one caveat: it had better not happen that often. Let’s use a
prostitution analogy. There’s a pimp who has a bunch of whores who work the
street corner. If you’re the whore that doesn’t get picked up and are making
money for the pimp, you will get kicked to the curb. This is why so many famous
people are published. The publishing companies know that name recognition is a
great thing for their whores to have. Now, publishing companies in the Big Five
have enough deep pockets that they can create name recognition for you. But
you’d better damned be worth it, and again, this kind of depends on the
uberness of your agent. Yes, there are agents out there who are level 1 and
those who are level 20 and represent clients like Stephanie Meyer and Allie
Condie. Not all agents are alike and a lot of this may boil down to how
“personable” they are in New York City, or are they charismatic, or do they
wear the right shoes? It may even be as simple as: are they rich? Let’s face
it, birds of a feather flock together. Rich people hang with rich people.
Skinny people hang with skinny people. Gay people hang with gay people, and so
on and so forth. So I guess the thing that surprised me the most about the
business-side of publishing is how cut and dried it is. And if you choose to go
to a small press, realize they have no budget. They won’t be able to get you
into a bookstore because they can’t eat returns. They won’t have a budget for
marketing other than twitter and their own website. And you will join the ranks
of millions of people who are all trying to over shout each other. But because
they have little to no money invested in you, they are a lot more slack in the
production of your book and allow you freedom that a Big Five publisher simply
won’t do. Additionally, if you sign with a small press, make damned sure that
you examine if they have incorporated, or if they are a sole proprietorship. I
can go down to the State Office, get a tax I.D. number for $25, and start my
own publishing company and call it whatever the hell I want. If you sign with
me, and I declare bankruptcy and it’s a sole proprietorship, the bank owns the
rights to your book. That means until all the money owed to creditors is
settled, you get nothing. Never sign with someone that has a sole
proprietorship in place UNLESS you have complete confidence in their ability to
manage their finances.
If you were talking to a roomful of
aspiring young writers, what advice would you give them. Be
clear on what you desire from publishing. If you dream of being in bookstores
like Barnes and Noble, you should pursue Big Five publishing and jump through
all of the hoops. If print-on-demand and ebooks are fine, there’s no reason to
not self-publish UNLESS you: 1) desire some help with formatting the ebook for
the different e-readers, 2) don’t want to put out money for editing, and 3) don’t
want to put out money for cover art. Small presses don’t typically have awesome
editors, because they can’t afford to pay them well. I think Double Dragon
Publishing probably has on average, 4-10 sales per year from each author that
they have in their stable. Think about what I’m saying: if the publisher is
paying a percentage and the editor edits a book and it only sells 10 copies,
that editor is getting a paycheck so small, it might not buy lunch at Taco
Bell. The only way you could ever make any money is if you edit hundreds of
books or have one that becomes a best seller. So the old adage applies: you get
what you pay for. And if a small press pays crap for editors, then they get
crap as a result, right? I went with DDP solely based on their corporate
structure and the fact that they do great original cover art with no reliance
on stock photo. I may use one of their editors in the future, but for now I’ve
always outsourced as it’s way quicker (there’s a waiting list of like a year to
get one of theirs). Also, find out if the small publisher knows any kind of
marketing. Do they provide advanced reader copies? Do they go by release dates
or just throw your manuscript out the window like a pizza hot from the oven?
Those are important questions because timing allows you to build hype. If your
small press has no sense of timing (or could give a crap) then it may not be a
good fit. No matter what, I think a newbie writer will always want to have some
print copies available because you can’t market without them. Many reviewers
and the website goodreads practically live off of print books. So until that
changes, you will need at least, print-on-demand capability for your stories. Also,
you need a website. I would just go with a free blog on blogger or on
wordpress. Learn how to use it, visit mine and click through the pages and see
how I’ve made some invisible and only available to people who are legitimately
combing for them. The reason I say a “free blog” is because you aren’t famous,
just like I’m not famous. Getting a website designer to build something out of
Flash when no one knows your name is pretentious as hell, I don’t think they attract
readers, and if you don’t know how to update it constantly, it will be
out-of-date. You should have the flexibility of just going in, doing anything
you want, and then clicking publish. And always have the most current prices
and links to your books visible so that customers who go looking for your
books, can find them. The key in my opinion is to make money and not
spend money, so take “free” whenever you can.
Finally, know the difference between bloggers and readers. Bloggers
(like me) will support you but not always buy your book. Support means clapping
for you, offering you exposure on their blogs, and retweeting your tweets.
Readers are the people you are after…those are the ones that read your book and
probably know next to nothing about the business and probably don’t read blogs
or tweet all that much. So how do you attract readers? You WRITE and you post your
writing in places where readers “read.” There are sites out there like
Wattpad that offer free stories and have millions of readers and apps available
for the iphone. I post stories on a porn site that gets lots of readers--it
results in 1000 hits on my book page a week. At the time of this posting, I
have over 400,000 page views on my blog (I generate 1700 page views a day), and
this is one of the reasons why. Wherever you choose to drop a story for free,
always link back to your book page. It’s leaving breadcrumbs in a wilderness so
that others can find you.
Great advice and lots of interesting insights. Thank you so much, Michael.
Thanks Melissa for hosting me. I'm gonna try to spread the word on my blog :)
ReplyDeleteIt was my pleasure, Michael. And thanks!
DeleteGuess I should feel fortunate with my small publisher since they have two editors who work on my book, and while not a lot of physical stores carry my books, Barnes and Noble and others do. Never realized there was a big difference. Also never really thought about pursuing an agent - I began with querying mid-sized publishers. What's your experience, Melissa?
ReplyDeleteI entered a contest and was one of the winners of a publishing contract. That was my lucky break into this crazy world. I am still overwhelmed by the whole industry. :)
DeleteLOL - the editor who signs up to get paid based on book sales is really getting the short end of the stick.
ReplyDeleteThe larger publishers have editors on staff who are paid a salary. Small to mid-ranged publishers often use freelance editors, and they are paid based on word count, which ranges from $5 to $50 per 1000 words depending on the level of editing. That is one of the reasons most publishers don't want to see a book over 100,000 words from a new author. (Cost of printing is the biggest factor though, as font size can only go so small.)
Paid based on book sales...I could never do it. It's too much work without enough guarantee.
DeleteDid not know that about freelance editing. I typically charge by the page.
Very interesting stuff about publishing.
ReplyDeletecheers,
mood
Hi Mood. I agree, I learned a lot from Michael just asking these few short questions.
DeleteExcellent post - Mr. Offutt provides an interesting perspective on publishing, and I like how his writing got started - with maps. Thanks for hosting, Mel!
ReplyDeleteGlad you enjoyed the post, Craig. Michael really offered up some excellent insights.
Deletecongrats to Michael on his two books.
ReplyDeleteI need to go out and get them. :)
DeleteYeah, there's a huge gap between the artistic side of writing and the business side of actually making a book that most people don't understand.
ReplyDeleteIt's like the kids at my kids' school continually asking me when -I'm- going to make a movie out of my book like I can just decide to do that.
I didn't really understand that distinction until I actually got into publishing. I'm still overwhelmed by the gap. It always amazes me how people think you can just write a story and poof! You're published.
DeleteThe easier said than done side of bringing your story to life.
ReplyDeleteToo true. It is so hard to get what's in your head out into the world.
DeleteMichael's interview was one of the best I've ever read from a practical advice standpoint. And he sells me on his books every time I read about his inspiration. Thanks to both of you. Awesome.
ReplyDeleteThanks, Rusty! I'm really happy you enjoyed the post. Michael really impressed me with his insightful, thoughtful answers.
DeleteMichael is so, so, SO cool. He's such a sweetheart. And I find his opinion fascinating, with whatever he's discussing. And this was a great interview---I really enjoyed reading more on his take on the industry and everything. And his blog numbers have me FLOORED. Wow...
ReplyDeletethanks, Morgan! I'm so happy you enjoyed Michael's interview. He really is so interesting and cool. I love his opinions on everything, too. Especially American Horror Story, a show the both of us love. I was really wowed by those numbers, too. :)
DeleteHi, Melissa, Hi, Michael.
ReplyDeleteThis post WAS CHOCK FULL of INFORMATION. Thanks Michael. I had no idea how detailed it is to find you readers and posting stories on reader's sites is a fantastic idea. ALL those hits a day on your blog... That IS impressive.
ALL THE BEST with your new book!
Hey Sweetie! I learned a lot reading this about doing free stories to entice readers. it had never occurred to me before. Michael really is so wonderful and generous with his advice.
DeleteWow, what an informative post. I especially enjoyed reading about the business side of publishing as I think that is something we writers often want to ignore or turn a blind eye to. And I have to admit I wasn't expecting a prostitution analogy so that made me laugh!
ReplyDeleteGreat post, Michael. Thanks for sharing, Melissa. I hope you both have a great weekend! :)
That prostitution analogy got me, too. But you know...;) I am nearly five years into the publishing industry and I still find myself slack-jawed about all the things I should know.
DeleteHave a great weekend, too. :)
Great information here, Michael. You laid it out very clear and concise - well, the publishing part. My head is still spinning trying to think about what bendy thing the light is doing behind my back...
ReplyDeleteI have to admit, Laura, that when I read Michael's answers, I was shocked at how little I actually knew about the business side of things. He really gave some clear insights and I see that I have a lot to work on this year. :) Glad you enjoyed the post.
DeleteWow! Thanks for all of that valuable info, Michael.
ReplyDeleteMelissa, on yesterday's post, I gave you an award and a shout-out in thanks of your kind and encouraging comments, if you want to take a look.
Kathy M.
Interesting look into the publishing side of things.
ReplyDeleteHe gives very sound advice. It's always interesting, too, to learn about how authors got their start. Thanks, Melly and Michael.
ReplyDeletexoRobyn