tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7021635145002263987.post1903089255106252329..comments2023-12-28T03:29:56.836-08:00Comments on Melissa's Imaginarium: IWSG Rant StyleAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04443736284850057306noreply@blogger.comBlogger48125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7021635145002263987.post-27396150679118239982013-05-10T08:58:58.453-07:002013-05-10T08:58:58.453-07:00YES! Great post! THIS. So much this. I think eroti...YES! Great post! THIS. So much this. I think erotic gets a bad rap (in this day and age) because there are so many "erotic writers" who don't know how to do it. Fifty Shades of what? There ARE self-indulgent writers in the genre, but there are self-indulgent writers in any genre (YA, I'm looking at you). <br /><br />Erotica is a writing style like any other and deserves mad respect, especially when done right. Anais Nin, anyone? She's an erotic writer, but that doesn't limit her to "porn." Case in point, I read a short story of hers about a woman giving birth to a dead child. Hard stuff, right? The point is, the story was really visceral and I physically hurt after reading it because the woman knows how to write vivid descriptions that pull the reader into the story...all thanks to writing erotica. <br /><br />Not gonna lie, I've considered dabbling in the genre myself, just because I think you really find out who characters are when they're stripped of inhibition. If you don't know what your character likes in the bedroom, you're missing out on a pretty nifty chance at character development. Plus, all my female characters somehow turn into dominant women with full control of their sexuality. I blame Gina Carano. <br /><br />I might have to write a post about this myself because I clearly have a lot of feels, but all this is to say: don't let the haters get you down. You're in a genre that's been touched by greats like Catullus (the Roman poet) and Bram Stoker (if Dracula isn't erotic horror, I don't know what is), and Nabokov (is Lolita not visceral?). So they can suck it.M. Hufstaderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08710221415534490058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7021635145002263987.post-25869279974153139802013-05-09T10:31:32.448-07:002013-05-09T10:31:32.448-07:00Maurice, isn't it just icredible? I mean we ar...Maurice, isn't it just icredible? I mean we are all writers, who cares what kind of stories we tell. Thanks for always being supportive. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04443736284850057306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7021635145002263987.post-64226086528146189412013-05-09T10:29:21.072-07:002013-05-09T10:29:21.072-07:00Thank you so much, Robyn! I really love Mencara, y...Thank you so much, Robyn! I really love Mencara, you gave me a great new site to visit. ANd thank you for the supportive comments. I love you too and fon't mind the pun in the least. :)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04443736284850057306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7021635145002263987.post-54512318032423978822013-05-06T06:16:41.513-07:002013-05-06T06:16:41.513-07:00I hate judgmental people. You're very talente...I hate judgmental people. You're very talented - I loved the books of yours I read - and glad there are more out there for me to enjoy. I liken this to women who birth their children naturally, use cloth diapers, and grind their own baby food. They have criticized me for having an epidural, using disposable diapers, and buying Gerber baby food. OMG! We each get to choose how we raise our children, and our books are our children. You know, the babykilling and stuff ;-) Write what you are good at, and screw the critics (pun intended).<br />Tina @ <a href="http://kmdlifeisgood.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Life is Good</a><br />Co-host, April 2013 <a href="http://www.a-to-zchallenge.com/" rel="nofollow">A-Z Challenge Blog</a><br />@TinaLifeisGood, #atozchallengeTinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08925730745204736744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7021635145002263987.post-45530969303766523502013-05-04T06:53:17.246-07:002013-05-04T06:53:17.246-07:00Melissa,
I used to feel this way about writing ro...Melissa, <br />I used to feel this way about writing romance. In the Caribbean, people seem to think you're a writer only if you write literary fiction or stuff that can be used in schools. While I may never write in some genres, I don't believe it is reason to disparage those who do. J.L. Campbellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05666634455836834179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7021635145002263987.post-38102944855899888592013-05-03T15:29:56.721-07:002013-05-03T15:29:56.721-07:00Dude, yes. I write romance and get roughly the sam...Dude, yes. I write romance and get roughly the same attitude. It's hard out there for those of us who enjoy learning and reading about things that people feel are taboo. I have no good advice, I just whined about this very thing in my IWSG post. But have you ever read the book, Bonk: The Curious Coupling of Science and Sex by Mary Roach? She talks about how sex researchers have the same problem. They have a horrible time getting funding for their work and how people assume their interest in human sexuality is prurient. It's a good read. <br /><br />Good luck to you. Erotica is a wonderful and incredibly difficult genre to write in (writing a great sex scene is difficult all by itself, let alone the rest of the story).Christina Mitchellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01760329784127319240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7021635145002263987.post-22540836946405870332013-05-03T14:07:47.966-07:002013-05-03T14:07:47.966-07:00I read one of your novels and it was a well constr...I read one of your novels and it was a well constructed story...with lots of steamy stuff too!<br /><br />I know I can't write erotica for the market. Seriously, I don't have the imagination for it. I do write sex scenes in my novels, but they aren't as explicit as erotica would demand. And they are difficult, difficult scenes for me to get right. It is much easier for me to write a battle scene, believe me. :) Luanne G. Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15762881276976395955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7021635145002263987.post-3036916549339026642013-05-03T12:12:04.060-07:002013-05-03T12:12:04.060-07:00A well-written work of erotica is an artform as mu...A well-written work of erotica is an artform as much as a well-written story in any other genre. A lot of people, even amateur erotica writers like I've read one some sites, don't seem to understand that it needs an actual storyline, not just a rush to the X-rated parts. I love finding a well-written erotic book or story that's more than just getting it on without character or story development. One of my pet peeves about amateur erotica is the insistence on including personal measurements, and almost always making them much bigger than average. Is it really germane to the story to know that a male member is 15 inches long or that the woman has a 40 DDD cup?Carrie-Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05810154378449825641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7021635145002263987.post-42119822177328611712013-05-03T11:11:04.751-07:002013-05-03T11:11:04.751-07:00yep, I will never understand how erotica, sweet po...yep, I will never understand how erotica, sweet porn :) and sex can be something shameful and gory horrors, bloodthirsty crime and action novels and films, and offensively stupid and superficial YA books aren't shameful??? I blame it all on the church LOL DEZMONDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14127166104359407763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7021635145002263987.post-8358129693000653332013-05-03T07:18:42.925-07:002013-05-03T07:18:42.925-07:00Rant is totally understood. I READ you book and LO...Rant is totally understood. I READ you book and LOVED it! And everything you say about your writing is TRUE! Writing is WRITING, no matter what subject or genre. I have a HOT sex scene in my edgy y/a and I was looked down on because of it. PLEASE... Like teens DON'T have sex? Right....<br /><br />Anyway, Mel, don't sweat it ..... We love you!Michael Di Gesuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17047267262428143113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7021635145002263987.post-15657185681551341782013-05-02T20:27:09.792-07:002013-05-02T20:27:09.792-07:00Sex is a part of life. It's in all the magazin...Sex is a part of life. It's in all the magazines. They teach sex ed in school. High school students do it much more than we want them to, and old married couples - well, if they're smart they haven't dropped the ball in this department. <br /><br />As long as there are people, there will be people judging others. Meet them. Learn who they are and what they are about, and move on. You'll know all you need to know, so there's no need to get your blood pressure up over them. Sorry you had to experience this. Glad you released the anger from it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7021635145002263987.post-5424750332260351462013-05-02T19:03:33.231-07:002013-05-02T19:03:33.231-07:00That is sad Melissa. I can see why you have 36 com...That is sad Melissa. I can see why you have 36 comments on this. You're right that it's not fair to scoff and tear down a genre. Science fiction had to put up with that for years.Maurice Mitchellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15338165486757095191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7021635145002263987.post-44395960422278216492013-05-02T16:23:58.336-07:002013-05-02T16:23:58.336-07:00Melly, check this link out on the same topic. I KN...Melly, check this link out on the same topic. I KNOW you'll get along and she's new in blogland. I wish the three of us could go for drinks. It'd be such a blast. xo<br /><br />http://mencaramitchell.blogspot.com/2013/05/iwsg-genre-shame.html#comment-form<br /><br />Rawknrobyn.blogspot.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15997241410192066577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7021635145002263987.post-55234059511278693402013-05-02T16:19:15.663-07:002013-05-02T16:19:15.663-07:00Wow, this is the same IWSG topic another awesome, ...Wow, this is the same IWSG topic another awesome, sassy blogger wrote! She's new. In fact I was thinking I should introduce you to each other - you'll get along great. I'll be back with her addy. <br /><br />PS I love you and hate those who mock your genre. They are completely clueless. The reason I don't write erotica is that it would be too hard (sorry, no pun intended) for me. <br /><br />xoRobynRawknrobyn.blogspot.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15997241410192066577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7021635145002263987.post-71832644360344006042013-05-02T14:24:04.798-07:002013-05-02T14:24:04.798-07:00High fives, my sista! I know what you mean about t...High fives, my sista! I know what you mean about those who look down just to feel superior. It drives me batty. We are all creative spirits so we should support one another. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04443736284850057306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7021635145002263987.post-78764516657676542852013-05-02T14:05:08.045-07:002013-05-02T14:05:08.045-07:00Funk that noise. People are tools. There's a c...Funk that noise. People are tools. There's a culture of making oneself look superior by cutting other things down, and mob mentality/sheep-like following insures that other folks join in - well, screw them all sideways.<br /><a href="http://minalobo.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Some Dark Romantic</a>Mina Lobohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10173895884776280826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7021635145002263987.post-63777222533132983172013-05-02T13:46:59.115-07:002013-05-02T13:46:59.115-07:00Thank you, Gina! Respect is all we ask. Thank you, Gina! Respect is all we ask. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04443736284850057306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7021635145002263987.post-2667944414608044752013-05-02T13:44:49.232-07:002013-05-02T13:44:49.232-07:00See, I cannot believe that attitude. You write rea...See, I cannot believe that attitude. You write real books. Kids read and I find MG and YA very entertaining. I'm with you, if you don't like it, just keep quiet. You are entitled to your opinion, but please don't be rude and rain it all over me. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04443736284850057306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7021635145002263987.post-18003557692894375552013-05-02T13:39:54.668-07:002013-05-02T13:39:54.668-07:00Thanks, Sarah. Support from fellow writers is very...Thanks, Sarah. Support from fellow writers is very important. We should always be there for one another.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04443736284850057306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7021635145002263987.post-32706653073975396442013-05-02T13:36:17.228-07:002013-05-02T13:36:17.228-07:00The dragon writes erotica? How intriguing and wond...The dragon writes erotica? How intriguing and wonderful. I hope you do decide on an anthology, it would be fantastic. Dragons are very special people indeed. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04443736284850057306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7021635145002263987.post-51765800487647371522013-05-02T13:20:04.736-07:002013-05-02T13:20:04.736-07:00I appreciate you support a lot, Melissa. We are al...I appreciate you support a lot, Melissa. We are all writers and genre should not matter. I've unfortunately seen a lot of thoughtless remarks about erotica writing and I've kept it bottled up with a smile. No more. We are all writers and deserve each other's support. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04443736284850057306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7021635145002263987.post-22926123920173647532013-05-02T09:33:26.824-07:002013-05-02T09:33:26.824-07:00Thank you so very much, Mel for coming on here and...Thank you so very much, Mel for coming on here and responding so honestly and thoughtfully. I appreciate that very much. Sex is quite difficult thing to write about and it does make a lot of writers very uncomfortable. Your heartfelt apology is most welcome and I look forward to more discussion with you. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04443736284850057306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7021635145002263987.post-28849806718087208412013-05-02T09:19:12.150-07:002013-05-02T09:19:12.150-07:00Thanks, Matt! That Hamlet quote made my night. It ...Thanks, Matt! That Hamlet quote made my night. It is juvenile to belittle an entire genre. I mean if one doesn't like it, that's fine, but don't go out of your way to decry the work of the writers. We work very hard honing our craft and creating our tales. Writing intimacy and sex is extremely difficult, but it is a huge part of who we are. A theme worthy of exploration to be sure. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04443736284850057306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7021635145002263987.post-3963178396857056082013-05-02T08:52:07.943-07:002013-05-02T08:52:07.943-07:00I admit that I'm not comfortable reading eroti...I admit that I'm not comfortable reading erotica, or sex scenes at all, but at least I know enough to respect the work of other authors.<br /><br />www.modernworld4.blogspot.comGina Gaohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09032273127593718883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7021635145002263987.post-75745725476954781692013-05-02T06:21:25.249-07:002013-05-02T06:21:25.249-07:00It's like you said, if someone doesn't fee...It's like you said, if someone doesn't feel comfortable reading erotica, then don't. It's sad that others would judge an entire genre like that. I write MG and YA, and I know a lot of children's writers. We sometimes hear things like, "when are you going to write a real book." That leaves most (if not all) of us children's writers biting our tongues thinking, really? Some people just need to keep their comments to their self. Cherie Colyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13205065477147957455noreply@blogger.com